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apparently to get down on your knees before bp. hmm. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. right now it's time for the ed show" with ed schulze. >> good evening, americans. welcome to the ed show" live from denver, colorado tonight. these stories are hitting my hot buttons at this hour. bp's ceo tony hayward went to capitol hill today to get fried for his company's negligence. but some republicans are actually apologizing to him? my commentary on that is coming up. after the sestak lincoln skrirkts, it's incumbents, 1, insurgents, 1, but colorado senate candidate andrew romanov col give progressives another big victory here in colorado. he'll join me tonight. and after mocking the president's 11-year-old daughter, now the drugster is going after kids who get free lunch at school. well, that puts him back in the zone. that's coming up tonight here on the ed show". but this is the story that has
me fired up. bp's ceo tony hayward finally faced the music on capitol hill today. lawmakers took it to him big-time. >> bp executives created an atmosphere where safety concerns were ignored. >> why were the safety recommendations of your own engineers ignored? >> i wasn't involved in any of the decision-making. it's clear that there was some discussion amongst the engineering team and an engineering judgment was taken. >> it's clear to me that you don't want to answer our questions. >> i'm not prepared to draw conclusions about this accident until such time as the investigation is concluded. >> this is an investigation. that's what this committee is doing is investigatory committee. >> how much money did avoiding this procedure save? >> i'm afraid i can't recall. >> would you submit for the record, please. how long would the fully circulating of the mud have taken? >> i'm afraid i can't recall that either would you submit that for the record, please
your. >> testimony has been way too evasive. >> your testimony continues to be at odds against all independent scientists. >> the double speak is rather tiresome. >> mr. hayward, i'm sure you will get your life back and with a golden parachute back to england. but we in america are left with the terrible consequences of bp's reckless disregard for safety. >> hayward sat there and took a beating for hours. and did his best to point fingers at other companies and paint himself as a victim. take a listen. >> the explosion and fire aboard the deep water horizon and the resulting oil spill in the gulf of mexico never should have happened. and i'm deeply sorry that it did. when i learned that 11 men had lost their lives, i was personally devastated. >> i'll tell you, this guy just can't help himself. nobody gives a damn if his life is deb saturday.
the only people ho have sympathy for ceo of oil companies are their buddies in the republican party. listen to smoky joe barton today. >> i'm ashamed of what happened in the white house yesterday. i think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what i would characterize as a shakedown, in this case a $20 billion shakedown. >> republicans think getting bp to pay for the mess they created is a big government shakedown? i'll tell you, they can't handle the fact that president obama forced bp to pony up $20 billion and they're left like road kill in the process. barton offered this lame apology late today. >> and if anything i've said this morning has been misconstrued an opposite effect,
i want to apologize for that misconstrue -- misconstruction. >> if he was really sincere, he would have never made his dumb comment in the first place. barton isn't the only republican carrying water for bp. here's psychotalker michele bachmann. >> we don't want these to become political. we don't think it's a good idea for the federal government to see private industry as essentially a piggy bank for the federal government. >> bachman and other republicans ran around this country for the last two years scaring people about a government takeover. now it sure seems like they would rather have the american taxpayer pick up the tab for a multinational. it doesn't matter what the president does. the republicans are on a mission to demonize every move he makes. here is the so-called america's mayor, rudy giuliani, on msnbc this morning. >> two days ago, had i dinner houston with several people who were top people in the industry. never reached out.
never asked, gee, has sheldon this before? has exxon done this before. if your father or mother was sick, you would go get a second opinion from an expert doctor, not from an acdem mission which is what he did. he hasn't talked to the industry experts. he hasn't brought them in. he hasn't gotten the best people. >> have you spoken to industry expert who's know how to stop the oil? >> no. >> if rudy is a real american, he should just pick up the phone, call the president of the united states and give him the names of the experts that he's speaking to. the president and his administration have been talking with oil company expert and none of them have been able to solve this problem. america, don't listen to rudy guiliani. he has no credibility and he has no idea what the hell is he talking about and notice how he didn't have any names. giuliani, bachman and barton need to stop politicizing every move the president makes in this
crisis and quit being fake patriots. you can't wrap yourself in the flag and cling to your constitution when you care more about foreign companies' oil profits than you do about fixing the spill and helping americans in desperate need. tell me what you think in our telephone survey tonight. the number to dial is 1-877-ed msnbc. my question tonight is, who do you believe republicans care more about, big oil companies or the people in the gulf? press the number 1 for big oil. press the number 2 for people in the gulf. i'll bring you the results later in the show. charlie melancon questioned tony hayward today and joins me from washington tonight here on the ed show". good to have you with us. how did it go today? what was accomplished and what did you think of tony hayward's answers? >> i could probably catalog it all on one page. it was kind of redundant or repetitive. he didn't seem to have, even
though he had a technical person, never appeared to want to bring him to the table or ask his opinion so he could answer some of the questions that were asked of him. i didn't feel we got -- didn't feel like we got a whole lot of information out of him. but then having gone through what we've gone through for the last 59 days, i've not been feeling good about the way bp has handled anything. it's been frustrating. >> what about the level of sincerity? do you think that tony hayward really feels devastated? do you really think he is sincerely sorry for what has happened? because there have been some comments in the last 60 days that just don't match-up? >> as you probably remember, i called for him to step down after he talked about the people in the gulf coast and particular little in louisiana at the time about he wanted to get his life back. we wanted the 11 people that lost their lives, those that were injured and the other people that work offshore to make sure they've got safety. getting your life back is one
thing.but we've got people in the shrimpers, the oystermen, store and marine owners, ice house, you name it, they'd like their life back, like the gulf back, like the wetlands back, like everything to be like it was before this explosion on this rig and after the careless operations that were performed by bp. >> congressman, i think the word is evasive. tony hayward was evasive today. i think you'll greet to that. >> you're being polite. >> okay. do you think that this motivates you and your colleagues in congress to be even tougher on bp because they've had somewhat of a callus attitude throughout all of this? >> we're going to continue to -- the thing that bothered me the most was when joe barton made the statement about apologizing to bp. joe needs to come down to south louisiana and visit with these people who are looking at their businesses empty when they're at the peak of their seasons or the boats that are parked or the oyster and shrimp houses that
are shut down. then he can find out, i mean, if you do feel sorry for the big corporations, i can't help you. i concern myself with the people i represent and how hard they work and how badly they're hurting right now. and the big thing is is that they don't know what the future holds. how much longer this is going to go on and when or if they're ever going to get their lives back. >> joe barton who has been on this program a few times, always seems to be somewhat of a reasonable guy but he was way out of line today. it looks like the republicans had even found a pulse on this. this is congressman jeff miller saying he should step down from his position. here it is. >> i condemn barton's statement, miller said. mr. barton's remarks are out of touch with this tragedy and i feel his comments call into question his judgment and ability to serve in a leadership on the energy and commerce committee pep should step down as ranking member of the committee."
congressman melancon, do you think that joe barton should step down in the wake of this comment? >> i wouldn't be opposed to it. it's within his caucus to make that decision whether to take him down or to ask him to step down. but at the same time, i think a flippant attitude or comment like that against good americans that are work hard for a living, that didn't want this to happen to them, that's totally disrespectful, yes. >> congressman, great to have you with us tonight. thanks so much for your work and thanks for your up front description of the way tony hayward was today. thank you so much. captain mike furnet joins me now from new orleans. he owns the venice charter fishing in venice, louisiana. a lot has unfolded, captain mike, over the last 48 hours. do you feel nel better about money coming your way in restitution what has transpired with the president getting a $20 billion commitment out of bp?
>> i really don't know how to answer that question right now. do i feel comfortable? not really. at least we have some security. we've got a $20 billion if you want to call it escrow account that's going to put these monies into it. part of that is going to be paid to the clean-up and part of it to the people that have lost a lot of financial equity during this time period. it's hard to say. what we really need to do, obviously we've got the $20 billion that's been put aside that bp up front has said we're going to make everybody whole. that may be a part of the puzzle right there that may help us out in the future. but we really still need to see structure plans within the businesses and the entities immediately little impacted by this devastation and we need to see where we're going to go forward. we've got the money into the account. now we need to figure out how we're going to distribute these funds. >> what did you make of the comment from the chairman of bp who said that they care about the small people. >> are you one of those small
people and how is that received down in the gulf? >> you know, we're definitely one of the small people. what is really the small people? let's take politics out of everything here. the small people are really what will drives the total economic of this country, everything. i mean, without the small businesses, you don't have the marriotts, you don't have the hiltons or the larger corporations. the small people are what will really drives the united states. and you know, again, we're talking about another bad choice of words that he repeatedly seems to use during his press conferences, and i really don't understand what his frame of mind comes to when he picks these verbiages to use when he's, you know in, front of the entire world. >> mike, back to the money for just one last question here tonight. do you have friends who are going under within the next maybe 30 or 60 days that have got car payments, boat payments, house payments that live from paycheck to paycheck? i mean, do you have folks on the
edge right now? >> there's thousands of people that are on the edge right now. you have a total commercial fishermen, the charter boat, the guide industry, you have the infrastructures, the businesses, the marina operators, the restaurants that are in the immediate impacted area. all these businesses have been shut down for two months with no income coming in. there is definitely a lot of people that are on the threshold of financial devastation. we have a total environmental impact that's occurred. we now are going to see the results of what will this impact has done financially to a lot of people across the board unless they get some financial restitution immediately. it's past the point of a band-aid right now. we've got mortgages, house payments, insurances. a lot of the these people are independent business people. they have to supply share own insurance. health insurance for their family, for their employees, for everything. all this is going on the wayside and it's not going to be long before you see an avalanche or
just a water fall effect where people start to crumble financially. >> captain mike furnette, i appreciate your honesty. i hope the white house and congress is liesening tonight. they need to move asap. thanks so much. coming up, my next guest is someone that the auto companies will not want to mess with. the uaw's new president is driving forward for his hard-working americans. boss makes a pit stop live from detroit in just a moment. all that, plus richard blumenthal's nose just grew longer, and alvin greene thinks he should be the man of the year? you're watching the ed show" on msnbc. stay with us. ♪
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welcome back to the ed show". thanks for watching tonight coming to you live from denver, colorado, where it's full speed ahead on my american workers tour across this country. over the past three weeks, i have met literally hundreds of people who are unemployed or about to lose their jobs, desperate folks. they're called the 99ers who are on the verge of losing benefits, their homes everything they have. the stories are absolutely heartbreaking. there's one guy in particular though that i just can't get out
of my mind. and that's glen stark who stood up at a town hall meeting in madison, the president of the united auto workers union local 72 in ken know shall, wisconsin. he says his auto manufacturing job along with 700 others is about to get shipped overseas. just gone. after the incredible comeback our auto industry has made in the way sales have come back, it would be unconscionable for us to allow this kind of thing to continue in this country. as a nation, we need to set a new course to secure those jobs here in the united states really where they belong. if we're going to turn this economy around, that's what we've got to do. my next guest will have that right in his sights as he takes it up with a new direction. bob king was just laeked as the new president of the united auto workers union, he won by a huge margin and his leader shimp will have a lot of bearing on the future of the industry. he joins me now from outside the convention center in detroit,
michigan. great to have you with us tonight. i appreciate your time. what can you say to the american people about these workers who have been given a loan, here's the auto industry coming back, and now we are still faced with this monster known as outsourcing and moving jobs overseas? what's the mission, mr. king? >> well, you and i are in total agreement that will manufacturing jobs should be kept here in the united states. we're saying to all the auto companies if you sell it here, build it here. we mean assembly. we mean engines, we mean transmisses, we mean stampings. we're going to fight for jobs here in the usa for our membership. they nad tremendous sacrifices and need to be rewarded with work. >> you call it will social justice roots. what do you mean by that? >> i mean it's a great tradition of the uaw that we fight for our membership but also understand to protect our membership we
have to fight for everybody in society. somebody has to be a voice for the people that aren't being treated fairly and the uaw has a great history of fighting for social justice because we know when we lift the boat for other workers we're lifting and protecting the boats for our membership. >> what is happening in california? i understand that there were 4700 worker who's were let go, and that's your next battleground. what are you going to do? >> absolutely right. toyota made the worst business decision, the worst moral decision. they're abandoning their highest market share of any state is in california. they owe it to california to keep those jobs there. what business sense does it make to take corollas now made in that plant the tooling and equipment is there and move them to mississippi is it a run to get lower wage wages and benefits? it's wrong. we're going to fight till that's turned around. >> the last president of the united autoworkers was somewhat of a low key guy in the media. are you going to raise the
visibility what workers are going through? >> you got to be who you are. he was a great president. he did a great job protecting our union and the industry. i'm by nature loud and noisy and want to fight. >> mr. king, good to have you with us tonight. keep up the fight. it is going to be a tough one. this outsourcing is something this country has to address if we're going to turn this whole thing around. i appreciate your time. we'll definitely visit again. the drugster, doesn't miss too many meals which explains why he can't relate to hungry children in this country. his psychotalk been school lunches is enough to make you toss your cookies. i'll serve him up in the zone next. stay with us. (announcer) no matter what life throws at you,
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it's a thing called the refrigerator. you probably already know about it. if that doesn't work, try a happy meal at mcdonald's. >> if that wasn't enough to convince you he is completely ignorant about the serious problem of hunger in this country, he ramped it up another notch with an even more offensive suggestion. >> if none of these options work, to find food, there's always the neighborhood dumpster. you might find competition with homeless people there, but there are videos that have been produced to show you how to healthfully dine and how to dumpster dive and survive until school kicks back up in august. >> well, limbaugh has always been very well fed but that's no excuse for his deeply insensitive psychotalk. coming up, republican congressman joel barton made me sick today and a lot of other
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welcome back to the ed show". with the battleground story tonight, it's all about the money. the escrow fund. the president took the heads of bp behind closed doors and got them to commit to pulling up $20 billion. .today, republican congressman joe barton apologized for the fund. michele bachmann thinks it's a shakedown of bp and a government
piggy bank. i think it's all about trust. so it's a trust fund. bottom line, i don't believe that this country whatsoever thinks that bp is going to close the deal once and forever when it comes to full restitution. let's check and see what some of the senators have been talking about. byron dorgan just not long ago on this program had this to say about an escrow fund. >> what i want to see is bp says we pledge, okay, let's sign on the line here, put $10 billion just as a starter in a recovery fund. have a special master that handles that fund. >> senator dorgan, democrat from the north dakota joins me now on the ed show". senator, good to have you with us. your suggestion of $20 billion, obviously, the white house went along with it. is this going to be enough, or is this just a start? and do you believe the president when he says it's not a cap?
>> well, i don't think anybody knows how much this is going to cost but you know, i said $10 billion or more. i think it's fine. it's critical to have a recovery fund and a pledge is okay, but a pledge doesn't provide money. make it binding. what's what's happened here. i tell you what, when i heard the response today by one of the congressmen apologizing to bp, i thought are you nuts? mean, what are you thinking? and the list of things that are stupid, that's got to rank way up there. of course, we should expect money to be put into a fund. a whole lot of folks out there are hurting and need to be helped and i don't think the american taxpayer ought to be the ones to foot the bill. it ought to be bp. that's what this is about. >> this is congressman joe barton talking about the fund as a shakedown. here it is. i want your reaction. >> i'm ashamed of what happened in the white house yesterday. i think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private
corporation can be subjected to what i would characterize as a shakedown, in this case a $20 billion shakedown. >> do you agree with that? i know you don't, senator, but what's your response to calling it a shakedown if this is the prevailing thought in the republican party? >> that is absolutely unbelievable. i think a carpenter would call it a half a bubble off plumb. you know, it's so way off the mark here. he ought to apologize for that remark to the american people. this is not a shakedown. this is asking those that caused a massive problem that most significant environmental problem we've had in this country's history perhaps to foot the bill, pay up. that's what this is about. if he doesn't understand that, i'm not sure what he does understand. >> well, this is congressman barton. he did apologize kind of. here it is. >> and if anything i said this morning has been misconstrued
and an opposite effect, i want to apologize for that misconstrue -- misconstruction. >> well, misconstrued. look, it's either a shakedown or it isn't. what do you think? >> i don't think anybody misconstrued what he said at all. that's the problem. what he said was nutty. everybody understood, how on earth can you talk that way? bp has a responsibility here. the president and others said to them, let's have a binding commitment, put some money in a fund. that wasn't a shakedown. it's exactly what our government should say. the absence of that i would say to the congressman barton and others, the absence of that would mean the taxpayers foot the bill. the oil company ought to foot the bill here. >> senator, how do you feel about the president's performance in all of this? this is the most money that anybody's ever gotten out after oil company. of course, it's the most dire circumstances but how did the president play this, in your opinion? >> i thought he did a good job. around here in this new climate
this political climate that's existed now for a while, nothing is good enough i guess for some. but look, we ought to say thanks. this president showing some leadershipship. he got this company to provide a binding commitment for some money. it's just the first -- the president's right. there's not a cap here. this company is going to having to provide the money to meet expenses. that's why i said there ought not be dividends, providing dividends will dissipate the money that might be needed to clean up the problems here. >> senator, good to have you with us tonight. great suggestion. great leadershipship by the white house to take you up on it. thanks so much. now let's get rapid fire response from our panel on these stories tonight. alvin greene's political fate is being debated right now. south carolina democrats are meeting to decide whether to overturn the results of his primary election win. the democratic candidate for senate in connecticut. richard blumenthal we're going down this road again, gets caught exaggerating his military
service one more time. while the republican senate candidate in illinois has been telling voters he's a teacher by trade, but he spent almost no time in the classroom? and congressional democrats are pushing back on the pentagon for what critics say is an endless war in afghanistan. with us tonight on these subjects joe madison, xm radio talk show host and also john fury, republican strategist. let's go to south carolina politics first. alvin greene, joe madison, how much trouble is this guy for the democratic party and what is the best road, the best path forward with this guy? >> i had congressman clyburn on for about five minutes because alvin greene refused to show up on my show after saying he would three times. so he's not a man of his word. number one. there were more votes that he received as clyburn said, in many precincts than were cast.
you got a problem there. somebody's hacking the system. number two, the voting machines that were used were rejected by 49 states. and this governor in south carolina, sanford, has in fact, went ahead with these discredited voting machines. what you have in south carolina is what i refer to on the air as an episode of "sanford and son." i don't think the democrats are in trouble here. i think they're doing the right thing. >> john fury, put your bipartisan hat on and give us a solution to all of this for the party in question. >> well, it doesn't really matter. whoever is going to be the democratic nominee is going to lose to jim demint anyway. i think this fiction that somehow you republicans are to blame for the fact that the democrats can't vote in a decent nominee is astounding to me. this isn't the republicans' fault. this is the fault of the democrats. they voted for alvin greene
because he was the first name on the ballot. they never heard of either guy. and they voted for greene because he was first on the ballot. it's not the republicans fault. it's the democrats' fault. >> i would agree that will -- >> you agree, joe? >> i would agree with that. congressman clyburn said he never really blamed the republicans and neither have i. i just said what i said. when anytime a candidate gets more votes than were cast, you got a problem with the machines. and yes, there were some people because we have a lot of listeners from south carolina as you do, ed, who called in and said, yeah, i voted for the first name on the ballot. and it's sad that people do this but this is why is voter education is as important as voter participation. >> there are a lot of folks out there blaming republicans for a conspiracy. it's just incompetence on the democrats part. >> the guy did show up with $10,000 after being in financial
trouble. all of a sudden he just happened to get the money. we'll let that sit. >> $10,000 cash and then went back and brought in a personal, $10,000 cash? >> the fact of the matter is demint's going to beat either one. there wasn't a conspiracy. >> how many times do i have to say, i agree with you. i don't know if it was or was not. but we don't have a legitimate candidate. >> let's move on to a couple of other candidates who seem to have a hard time with their past. richard blumenthal out of connecticut is now having trouble with his military service again and another interview comment that he made. and also, mark kirk this really surprises me. you're either a teacher or you're not. you know whether you were in the classroom or not. "new york times" writes that kirk has often reminisced about his time as a teacher but doesn't talk about the brev vit of his experience, a year in london at a private school or part-time at a nursery school as part of a work study while he
was a student at cornell. john, is this exaggerating a resume? what do you think? >> i don't, ed. i spent time in the classroom as a ta to a bunch of history students and i consider that teaching. if you're in the classroom dealing with students, you're teaching. that's a year, half year, whatever it is, you've been teaching. you understand what teachers go through. if you're richard blumenthal and you say that knowing darn well that you got in the reserves so you wouldn't serve in vietnam and you said i got in the reserves so i could go to vietnam, that's a lie. i think he got caught in a lie. >> you just heard a contradiction. he was a ta. teachers assistant. >> oh. a ta is a teacher's assistant, not a teacher. >> if you face the students, i considered someone who's taught kids. >> come on now. you're stretching it here. >> fury, you are stretching the
resume big-time. it's padding. >> you're either a student pilot or you're not. you're either cleared for the visual or you're not. you either get to the fly jets or you can't. the fact is, it sure seems to me that this guy fabricated his resume and was never a teacher. a teacher would be offended saying someone is a teacher's assistant is qualified to do the same classroom work. >> mark kirk taught in the classroom. he's, he did some teaching. that's a completely different thing. i don't think they're all aligned. >> let's talk about. >> i've been in many classrooms so that qualifies me as a teacher. >> you should, good. >> no, i won't. it's called padding in the poker world. >> gentlemen, great to have you with us. we're on fire tonight. i appreciate your time. that's all we've got time for tonight. i'm glad both of you are after it. thanks joe, thanks john. coming up, here in colorado
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some insurance companies seem to think so. [ whistle blows ] but 6 months later, when you've been broadsided by an suv, who do you call? not the name of the company, but the name of the person. i'm sorry. what was your name again? at allstate, you get a licensed professional who'll stand by you. not just a voice at a phone bank. you deserve a real relationship. that's allstate's stand.
[ whistle blows ] [ dennis ] are you in good hands? and in my playbook tonight, there's a battle raging here in colorado for the democratic nomination for senate. the former speaker of the colorado state house andrew romanoff is up against incumbent senator michael bennett. who has the support of president
obama. andrew romanoff joins me now here on the ed show" tonight. mr. romanov, you obviously are the darling of the progressive moment but your opponent, senator bennett, says that you're no more progressive or no more liberal than he is. how is this race going to shakedown and decipher all of that for us. >> my opponent's judgment has been clouded by all the corporate cash that he's taking. look, i'm more progressive on health care. i support a universal single pair plan. he does not. i would have fought for a public option. he did not. i would have fought for real financial reform. he's become one of the top ten recipients of cash in the country. he's putting ads on tv bragging about standing up to big oil when two days ago, sided with big oil to president bush their tax breaks. the choice is clear and we're winning. >> now, you say you're for universal health care and you say your opponent was against the public option. he did vote for the health care bill.
but didn't he write a letter asking others to support the public option once he got some pressure? what do you think of that? >> i'll get letterhead when i'm in the senate, too. leadership is not about writing a letter. it's standing up and taking on a fight, standing up to corporate contributors. i don't have any. my opponent's taken money from the insurance and drug companies. when push came to shov and we had a chance to restore the public option during the reconciliation process as his letter said he would, he didn't push. he didn't shove and we don't have a public option today. >> can you say tonight that you will not take money from big insurance and you will not take money from big oil and that you would be a grassroots candidate for the people and not one of corporate interests? >> yes, yes, and yes. the only candidate in this race who refuses to take a dime of corporate cash, one of the few candidates in america whose campaign is funded by people, not by special interest groups. >> why are you challenging him?
has he been i guess a bad democrat? what is motivating you, and where is your support coming from in colorado? >> our support's coming from all across the state. we won the state convention bill 21 points, ed. we've got the best chance to hold the seat. most of the polling including one taken last week says if i'm the democratic nominee, i have the best chance to hold this seat for our party in november. the republican opponent beats my democratic challenger by six points. i'm in a dead heat with her right now. i'm running because i believe this is a time as you know when so many people are losing so much. it's not enough just to have adequate representation. to have senators who will get along with their big corporate friends. we need people who are bringing to washington the courage of our convictions and who stand up for real progressive reform. that's what i did as the speaker of the house and what i'll do in the u.s. senate. >> finally, are you a vote that labor can count on? can you say that you would vote
for the employee free choice act if it comes up? >> i will vote to cut off the debate to bring that bill to the floor to hold employers accountable, to stiffen penalties when they violate the right to organize to, offer binding arbitration rather than let negotiations drag on forever. i've got a strong record on labor issues and a real friend of working families. >> thank you, mr. romanov. good to have you with us tonight. that primary is going to be here in colorado on august 10th. folks, i've been out on the road on my book tour for the last few weeks. the book is called "killer politics, how big money and bad politics are destroying the american middle class." i'm in denver tonight. for more information, head to my website at we got ed.com. some final pages in the playbook tonight, alvin greene the once unknown senate candidate from south carolina is gaining confidence. in an interview with a magazine, he said that he is the best candidate for the senate and get this he said that he will should
be time's man of the year? well, i don't think that we're going to be seeing that one on the newstands anytime soon. rod blagojevich corruption trial continues in chicago. more video wire tape should i say, phone conversations are coming out. one of them from two years ago got my attention. blago was asked, asking his brother about a $60,000 donation from a man when the conversation turned to the hair. >> i'll tell you what, i was very impressed. he's got a very delightful wife. i had a chance to visit with her. she loves our hair by the way. >> yeah. >> loves your hair and loves my hair because it's all real. i guess, it's kind of interesting. very well read lady. anyway, yeah, 60 and that all go in the bank today. >> okay. >> is that a $60,000 haircut? and finally, my favorite golf tournament of the year is under way. u.s. open kicked off this
morning. the leadershipboard is crowded at the moment. phil mickelson is nowhere near the top. i'm looking for tiger to be right there on sunday. he's on the course right now with a late tee time today. coming up, tony hayward apologized to the world today. the lawyer who won a lawsuit against bp five years ago will share firsthand experience what it's like to deal with these snakes in suits. you're watching "the ed show." stay with us. thanks to secret flawless renewal... with odor-absorbing micro capsules that capture... odor and release a fresh scent. it's still working, so you can stop checking. through over 5,000 quality, durability, and safety tests? ♪ ♪ isn't it obvious? the nissan altima. made to make your life better.
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and finally tonight on the ed show," more about oil. british petroleum's ceo tony hayward repeated his pledge today to pay all necessary clean-up costs. but we've heard a lot of empty promises from these guys over the last 60 days. the shrimpers, fishermen and oil workers are still saying show me the money. for more on the claims, let me bring in attorney brent kuhn. he sued bp in 2005 after refinery explosion in texas. and is also involved in current lawsuits against the company. mr. kuhn, good to have you with us tonight. the $20 billion, the claims process, the independent party that's going to be making a lot of decisions out of the control of bp, it all sounds good. but with your experience, how realistic do you think all of this is? >> well, it does sound good. i think it will be good. it's apples and oranges though. in our case with texas city with the explosion, thousands of claims but those were all
resolved through the litigation process. there was no third party administrator. we had to negotiate each one directly with. i have a lot of experience with feinberg and rosen which is the third party administrator here. they've done a lot of other things. they did the 9/11 fund, the virginia tech shooting. they did agent orange for our military veterans. they have a lot of experience in handling these types of claims and generally speaking do a very good job. >> so you think that all pieces are in place for some sort of a successful conclusion when it comes to restitution, maybe something we've never seen before. is that a fair statement? >> it may. i think the problem we have right now it's questionable as to whether or not the $20 billion is going to be adequate. we still have oil spilling all over the gulf of mexico. way ward hayward keeps saying it afs trickle. we all realize the impact is tremendous and we just don't know the yet how much this is going to impact the entire gulf
coast economically. >> what is this escrow fund, what does it mean to the lawsuits going on right now? how does it affect them if at all? >> that's an interesting concept. each one of these funds that have been set up this way from an administrative standpoint operate differently. some of them you opt into the program in lieu of litigation. sometimes they run parallel. the 9/11 one was an exclusive remedy. many times they're opt in or out. in this case hopefully it won't resolve claims in full early on because you can't, you don't know how much your damages are but it will provide interim payments to those in need. i don't think we want to see all these people having to go be dumb strl divers like rush limbaugh said was okay to do. >> does this change the culture of bp at all when it comes to how much they're going to fight to keep their money in the wake of death and devastation of the environment? the $20 billion is out there. it looks like the president has gotten them to fork it out.
a third party is in place. do you think down the road this is going to change the culture of the country? they say they're going to do everything and take care of all the costs. do you believe all that? >> i don't. they're pathological liars. the last ceo lord brown was caught committing perjury on stand in london. every person ever deposed at bp had a b.s. answer to a lot of questions. they lie a lot and i think they're lying now. hope flit government will stay involved and the congressional amore other than mr. barton will stay involved and really help these people. they need the money now. like i said, ed, it's like the boat captain said awhile ago. these guys need their money now. they have no money coming in and it's not just the shrimpers. it's the entire tourism industry being devastated and going to go bankrupt. >> mr. coo n, thanks for putting a dose of reality on all of this. a long way to go. tonight i asked you who do you believe republicans care more about, big oil companies or